Oprah Winfrey is sharing rare details about her close-knit circle, so listen up.
The media mogul appeared on a recent episode of Hoda Kotb’s Making Space podcast alongside fellow guest Maria Shriver. Although Winfrey doesn’t have very many friends, she explained that she has three people who she can always rely on: Shriver, Gayle King and Bob Greene.
“So, I don’t have a lot of friends,” Winfrey said. “Everybody knows Gayle. There’s Gayle, there’s Maria, there’s Bob. And that’s— that’s about it, you know?”
While discussing her friendship with Shriver, Winfrey admitted that their meet-cute wasn’t glamorous, since it took place in the bathroom of a Baltimore television station. “I forever think that that was, like, a divine moment that happened because she was one of my true, grounded friendships that carried me through my entire career,” she said.